The story of the Greenhorn Protesters, and the Allegory of the Kid
Free Oregon Dinner - 6 Aug 2021
(Verbal slips repaired with "" for written clarity in this text.)
I'm really grateful for this chance for me to talk to you a little bit .
I'm not actually going to tell my story. Free Oregon made a nice video. If you go
to FreeOregon.us/patriot, there's a nice little video that Ben made where I tell
my story - because I don't think I have time here.
But I thought I'd do something a little more dangerous, I'll tell you how I think.
Because of that, I was going to start off with a Dad's joke, and my wife promised
me if I did that I'd get a month's worth of Raman noodles for dinner. So we're
not doing that! But I do want to tell you a story.
So not long after I was, it was the week I got arrested. I was arrested on a
Sunday, spent the night in jail, went to the Federal building on Monday, and then
I got home that same evening. My wife picked me up Monday evening.
So that same week my wife had me in bed, I had had a stroke the end of January and
it was fairly major. I lost of good portion of my cerebellum. I had to re learn
how to walk, I spent 10 days, 3 weeks in the hospital and 10 days in rehab
learning how to walk.
She was very concerned about my blood pressure when I got home, 'cause it was
high! In fact in one point in the jail they measured it as 210 / 101. I was in
a hospital and my partner in the [next] bed had a 190 and two or three nurses and
two or three doctors went in when he hit 190. And that's how they treat it in the
hospital. In the in the jail they said, "take him to his cell".
So anyway she's concerned about my blood pressure. I was sitting in the bed that
she set up downstairs and a good friend stopped by, a family friend that we
hadn't seen in years. She said, "I was at a local store and I just felt like I
needed to come by and talk to you guys." So she talked to us and she told me a
story and I want to tell you this story. I call it the Story of the Greenhorn
OK so back in the 90s, she's a Republican, and back in the 90s during the
Florida recount stuff going on, the Republicans decided they're going to have a
protest. And this was the first one she'd ever been to. In fact, I think
everybody there was new to protests. So they show up, they got their signs, of
course they're dressed in middle class garb, which is a little weird for
protesters, right? They are supposed to wear black I think.
They show up, and the police say, "OK look you can be on the sidewalk, you can
carry your signs, you can yell at the cars but you you gotta stay on the sidewalk.
You can't cross the line." So they did that. They waved their signs and they
actually tried to do some chanting. It was very awkward, no ones ever chanted
before. And in fact at one point, they had it in two places, at one point they
were in downtown Pioneer Square and all the Portlanders were laughing at them
because their chants were so bad. So anyways, and then she proceeded to tell me
that everyone stayed on the sidewalk. And like probably most conservative or
Republican protests, there was no trash anywhere, nothing was graffiti'd. There
wasn't any graffiti on anything. It's just nice.
So she told me that, and I just want to pause for a minute and have you think.
What do you think about that? When you hear that story what do you think about
Well when I heard it I was kind of proud. I said, yeah, that's who we are, you
know. We're not rabble rowsers, we're not assaulters, we're not destroying
property. That sounds about right. They're good law-abiding citizens.
So that's the story. Now I want to add a little bit, I want to expand that story.
I'm going to turn it into an allegory. So we're on the, the Republicans are on
the sidewalk, and across the street a young mom is walking along with her kid, and
she sees someone she [hasn't seen in a while]. She decides to start talking.
She doesn't notice that her toddler has let go of her hand and has walked into
the middle of the street. There's a bus coming down the street, heading right
for that kid. And it's clear, the bus isn't going fast, but it's clear that
bus doesn't see the child. All the protesters stay on the sidewalk.
Now tell me what you think about the protesters. Do you have a different opinion
about them? No one saved the kid. The mom watched her kid die.
So I personally think that right now our young Republic America has been thrown
in the street, and there's a bus coming down the street. And it's got hammer and
sickle decals on it, and there's people on the other side of the street
cheering it on and it is headed right for our country. It's headed for the kid.
Frankly, I think there's too many people standing on the sidewalk saying, "should
I save the kid or should I obey the police who told me to stay here on the
I'm sorry, but that's the way I think about things.
So this is a hard time. This is an interesting time. This is one of those [hard]
times you read about in history that people lived through. And there's hard
questions, hard decisions to be made. I just want to let you know, I don't know
how much history you know, but this is not new to humans. This is the never
ending story of humankind, it's people seeking tyrannical power and control.
It's the never ending story of the human race. I'm sorry, but it is.
The most recent terrible example was the German people in World War II. My wife
and I lived in Germany for four years when I was in the military and the German
people are just like you. They're not crazy. They're just normal people. How
could a nation of normal people who had wonderful art, and music, and wonderful
culture, how the heck could they stay on the sidewalk while their country was
dragged into murderous tyranny and barbarism... and stand on the sidewalk. Do
you look at them and say, "those are good law abiding citizens". I don't.
Because they're not.
So does the left believe in getting off the sidewalk? Well, I was born in 1958
so I was old enough to observe the world in the 60s. And ever since the 60s,
which is over 60 years now, the Left has been saying, "get off the sidewalk, get
in the street." Well when I was growing up, they did that to, you know, they
assaulted police officers, and occupied buildings, and maybe destroyed a little
bit of property. But this last year they've added burning, arson, destroying
people's business and livelihoods. You probably saw the famous CNN picture with
the guy standing in front of a burning downtown saying, "mostly peaceful protest."
So they've added that, and now they've added Federal election fraud to the list
of acceptable things to get off the [sidewalk] for. So the question I have for
you is, is it OK for patriots to get off the sidewalk? Is it OK? Well that's an
interesting question. A lot of people are thinking about this.
I was in a church meeting when we had to have it in Zoom, and the discussion was
how to stand up for truth and righteousness and good, without being hateful,
and have contention, right. It's a good topic, you know. We have to deal with
And you know that on Zoom there's a little sidebar, and you can type things in,
and one guy typed in, "we should never engage in civil disobedience". And I
thought about that for about 5 seconds, and I typed in, "what about the founding
fathers of 1776?"
What about the Boston Tea Party? I'm sorry but there was somebody guarding that
stuff, they had to be bonked on the head. You have to throw  thousands
of dollars worth of tea into the ocean. It wasn't their tea! It was somebody
else's tea. I believe the Boston Tea Party and the American Revolution was the
right thing. I believe it brought prosperity and freedom. (Yes, thank you.
There's tons of examples, people.) The American Revolution brought in
freedom and prosperity to the entire world. It was the right thing to do.
OK, so the Boston Tea Party, you got 1776. What about the Civil Rights movement?
Was that the right thing to do? There were lots of Republicans that
participated in that. It was a Republican Congress, I believe that passed the
Civil Rights bill. They were overturning laws in the Democratic South that
were used to oppress people.
So the question is not if, but when do we get off the sidewalk. And I think
there's three things that we can look at to make this decision.
1 - was the law passed by the people's representatives?
2 - is the law constitutional?
3 - and is it being equally applied?
If those three things are not true. it is not a law, it's a rule and you're
standing on the sidewalk obeying the rules just like the Germans obeyed rules
with the terrible things that happened there.
So that's the way I think, sorry. I'd just like to say thanks for coming. I do
believe it's the right thing for us to be standing up for America. I think it
brought wonders to the world, and I don't think that the country is done. I think
there's lots of people who have the intellect and the courage of heart just like
our founding fathers did to stand for what's right.
There's a lot of unknowns that we're facing. I've got regular court dates I have
to go to. The Feds like piling on charges. Just this Monday, four days ago,
I was read nine charges that I'm accused of. I'm sure if I added them up there's
probably 50 years worth of penitentiary time there.
I retired early. I was hoping to work to 68, I'm 63, I was hoping to work to
68, so to reach full retirement age. I wasn't sure how my company would handle
things so I decided just to leave. But I've been inspired, lots of good people.
I want to - I told pastor Paul I wanted to talk about what he said on our Monday
prayer, after the Free Oregon Townhall.
He read a scripture. It's from Ephesians 6:12 -
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities,
against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against
spiritual wickedness in high places.
If that doesn't describe our time, I don't know what does. And as I thought
about that, I thought, you know, were going to need some help. We're going to
need some help in knowing when to get off the sidewalk, what we should do. What
should each of us do? I don't have that answer. You've got to come up with that
answer. But I believe God will help you come up with that answer if you ask him.
So I think we need to pray, personal prayer. Like Dan had on his T-shirt, you
know, we're looking for a personal relationship with the Lord. He'll tell us
what we need to do. And I just want to suggest maybe another thing you
could do to add with that prayer - is a fast. Isaiah 58:6-7, I just thought of
this, and I looked at it, and I couldn't believe it how it applied. Isaiah
said this about fasting:
Is not this the fast that I have chosen, to lose the bands of wickedness,
to undo the heavy burdens, to let the oppressed go free, and that to break
So I believe we can stand up for America. I believe that we can win this fight.
We have to know what we need to do, and I think with God's help we can know how
to do that. And there's a song I listen to when I do my exercising, I'm not
nearly in the category that Wendy is, but I try to avoid strokes. It says,
"we're going to trip the light, we're going to break the night, and when we
trip the light, we'll see with new eyes."
I think that can happen. Thank you.